The Liu Xiang Pull-out: Comments from Cyberspace
(Cross-posted from the Ogilvy8.com blog here)
I’ve always held that anyone trying to get a grasp on how people really feel about an issue should take the comments they read on BBSs or any other anonymous online forums with a large grain of salt, irrespective of the country we’re talking about. I generally dislike it when selective comments are used by the media to paint a picture of online sentiment anywhere, and lament that this seems to be a particularly popular approach when trying to take the temperature of China, when compared to other countries.
People posting behind the shield of anonymity, and with no accountability for their posts, all seem to strive to outdo one another in the sheer audacity and offensiveness of remarks.
With that caveat in mind, while I’m not surprised to see that some absolutely horrible and insensitive things are being said, the vast majority of messages I’ve seen in on Chinese BBSs are very sympathetic to Liu Xiang after he shocked the nation by pulling out of competition earlier today. Obviously I couldn’t read too many of the literally tens of thousands of posts that appeared just in the first hours after Liu’s announcement. The CCTV press conference that Liu’s coach Sun Haiping and Athletics head coach Feng Shuyong gave this afternoon probably expressed well, I think, the disappointment, while deflecting any frustration that might have been directed at the coaching staff or at “authorities” who might have pressured Liu unduly. Most people are talking about how they’re praying for him, how they’re disappointed, how they’re still rooting for him to recover.
Yet there are a few people who are calling him a “shame,” or criticizing him for being vain, or for cracking under pressure and blaming an injury, or for being able to endure his agony for commercial shoots but not when he’s on the starting block. But they’re in the real minority and they’re generally being shouted down.
13 comments thus far
Can’t agree more. Even occasionally comments from BBS do reflect a certain level of reality, it is still so far away from what it should be quoted as a generalization of a phenomenon or a mainstream’s point of view.
Posted by Rudi Leung on August 18, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Editor’s note: I’m approving this comment because it’s an excellent example of how anonymity and lack of accountability turns people into complete jerks:
<p>Liu Xiang is a pussy. He knew he couldn’t win so he didn’t enter the race. LOSER!</p>
Posted by puhlease on August 18, 2008 at 3:12 pm
I agree totally - the internet is place for cowards to post inflammatory crap anonymously.
If in any doubt check out youtube or myspace.
Liu Xiang is a an absolute champion and a very modest person who gives generously to his country eg: the earthquake donation.
He is neither a “coward” or a “dog” he is a champion being unfairly targeted by nameless morons.
Posted by nigel leitch on August 18, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Totally agree with you Kaiser. That said in my office today my chinese colleagues were giving a fair amount of credence to conspiracy theories such as he was scared and couldn’t handle the pressure.
Posted by scott on August 18, 2008 at 4:14 pm
You know I’ve had a view for a long time that anonymity applies only to political opinion against those in power.
The rest of the comments which are all about insults don’t mean anything and should be deleted.
On that note though it must be really bad to let over a billion people down all at the same time. Sometimes I do it to a couple of people and they make me feel real bad…. *points to name above this comment*
Posted by Charles Frith on August 19, 2008 at 11:32 am
I personally supported Liu Xiang. Those criticized on him must be a moron knowing nothing about sports and spirit.
Posted by Danny Tan on August 19, 2008 at 9:02 pm
He was scared!!thats all there is to it. He could not handle the pressure. I have lived in China and the pressure was too much. He got a bit lucky in Athens, great run, but with everything in life, a bit of luck. That being said, he should have ran. What? all of a sudden his foot hurt. Nobody knew this??..Wasn’t it his hamstring?? Was it the foot or the Achilles tendon??..With all these trainers, nobody knew anything??..All of a sudden his foot hurt???..Great over acting in my book…he is no Kerri Strug, Derrek Redmond or Yao Ming (playing hurt throught the Olympics)…A sham is right!!!!!
Posted by Papi on August 21, 2008 at 11:50 pm
“People posting behind the shield of anonymity, and with no accountability for their posts, all seem to strive to outdo one another in the sheer audacity and offensiveness of remarks.”
this is perhaps the truest thing I have ever read.
You don’t know how many times I am going to recycle this quote (With your link of course)
Posted by nigel leitch on August 22, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Nigel, if you are talking to me, nobody is being anonymous. Bryan Lopez is my name. Everything I said is true. and your KL trip sucked!!…I was there in ‘03 via Khota Baru…
Posted by Papi on August 24, 2008 at 2:15 am
To Papi
My KL Trip did not suck and that is really a cheap shot , just because you didn’t enjoy going there, that’s not my problem.
Perhaps it’s more about your attitude than Kuala Lumpur.
My comment wasn’t directed at you at all.
It was to the writer of this article.
And for your information it is impossible to run with a damaged achilles tendon.
Posted by nigel leitch on August 25, 2008 at 2:26 pm
Regardless of what really happened or why, Liu Xiang now has a great chance to be a hero again. He can strive for the next Olympics - and show his country what a true Olympic Champion is - one who overcomes the greatest difficulty to achieve his or her best. The Olympics is about struggle and challenge and redemption thru sport. China claims it protects the Olympic Spirit, now its hero Liu Xiang alone has the one true opportunity to show the world that China indeed understands what the Olympic spirit is. He must continue and run in London. EVen if he doesn’t win Gold, he will have become a hero again. It is his duty, it is his fate. It was and is and has always been his destiny I think. This achievement will be greater than all the Gold medals he could have won in Beijing. I am not a big fan of Liu Xiang but I am a big fan of China, and now Liu can show the world that China is truly a great country.
Posted by Andrew from NY on August 25, 2008 at 10:43 pm
he is a coward. he cheated the whole nation. you can see this by analyzing his acting on the field ,disguised pain, too much exaggerated,
Posted by wly on August 29, 2008 at 6:27 pm
Oh yes, the all knowing ones have spoken……
Posted by nigel leitch on September 1, 2008 at 11:44 pm
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